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		<title>By: Anna Roitman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anna Roitman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jun 2010 17:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Ronna, 
 
I know a bit of what is going on in Asian countries because they are one of my topics of interest and i am myself learning Chinese. Languages also have a market- some are considered more prestigious than others, unfortunately, according to the connotation and biases brought together with the nations who bear them as a mother tongue. You are right that English became like branded jeans or shoes or being seen in a western junkfood restaurant. I think any language, not just English should be taught through the cultural perspective as an open dialog , in a dialog you can make much more than negotiate and close a deal, you can understand the person in front of you mess up less- if its a deal or a peace treaty, the court of law.  teaching simple functionality will only lead to misunderstanding.    </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Ronna, </p>
<p>I know a bit of what is going on in Asian countries because they are one of my topics of interest and i am myself learning Chinese. Languages also have a market- some are considered more prestigious than others, unfortunately, according to the connotation and biases brought together with the nations who bear them as a mother tongue. You are right that English became like branded jeans or shoes or being seen in a western junkfood restaurant. I think any language, not just English should be taught through the cultural perspective as an open dialog , in a dialog you can make much more than negotiate and close a deal, you can understand the person in front of you mess up less- if its a deal or a peace treaty, the court of law.  teaching simple functionality will only lead to misunderstanding.</p>
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		<title>By: leo</title>
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		<dc:creator>leo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 13:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is not a spam ... because it is a useful website .. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is not a spam &#8230; because it is a useful website ..</p>
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		<title>By: Essay</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 13:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Anna Roitman,  
 
Your essay about English used as a monetary tool is true, there are so many Asian countries now visiting other Asian countries just to learn English but do not really think of English as a subject. People who are not really not using English as their primary language seems to like English as a part of fashion. Some are using or speaking English as a show off that they are educated , rich and powerful. The English language has been used in different ways at different purposes. Maybe it is really time to look at it as one of the important subjects in education. 
 
Ronna - Learning English is important </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Anna Roitman,  </p>
<p>Your essay about English used as a monetary tool is true, there are so many Asian countries now visiting other Asian countries just to learn English but do not really think of English as a subject. People who are not really not using English as their primary language seems to like English as a part of fashion. Some are using or speaking English as a show off that they are educated , rich and powerful. The English language has been used in different ways at different purposes. Maybe it is really time to look at it as one of the important subjects in education. </p>
<p>Ronna &#8211; Learning English is important</p>
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		<title>By: Norman Grant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Norman Grant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 23:04:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Randy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 22:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that being able to teach English will definitely be able to help improve one&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.businesscommunicationblog.com/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;business communication&lt;/a&gt; skills. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that being able to teach English will definitely be able to help improve one&#039;s <a href="http://www.businesscommunicationblog.com/" target="_blank">business communication</a> skills.</p>
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		<title>By: Karine Rafferty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karine Rafferty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 19:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was educated in Belgium. After I settled in the U.S. I went to college to study English (and American) literature. A whole new world opened up for me. First reading and discussing books which were in the original language and not translated improved my English a great deal. Second by reading English and American literature I learned about the history of the English language, history in general, psychology, philosophy etc. Reading Byron and Shelley was so exciting and by explicating their poems I discovered a great deal about interacting with the written word. American literature taught me a great deal about this country.  In Belgium I was taught grammar and sentence structure. Not only did this bore me to death, but I wasn&#039;t very good at it. and it certainly didn&#039;t improve my English. In my last year of English in high school we were introduced to literature and I excelled at it.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was educated in Belgium. After I settled in the U.S. I went to college to study English (and American) literature. A whole new world opened up for me. First reading and discussing books which were in the original language and not translated improved my English a great deal. Second by reading English and American literature I learned about the history of the English language, history in general, psychology, philosophy etc. Reading Byron and Shelley was so exciting and by explicating their poems I discovered a great deal about interacting with the written word. American literature taught me a great deal about this country.  In Belgium I was taught grammar and sentence structure. Not only did this bore me to death, but I wasn&#039;t very good at it. and it certainly didn&#039;t improve my English. In my last year of English in high school we were introduced to literature and I excelled at it.</p>
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		<title>By: Norman Grant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Norman Grant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 10:24:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I teach English in Italy. The books for classes that try to be &quot;cool&quot; usually reflect neither literary English nor current conversational English. I feel that language schools are soon going to have to offer two kinds of English: stripped-down for everyday use and a more formal one for anybody that wants to read English literature.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I teach English in Italy. The books for classes that try to be &quot;cool&quot; usually reflect neither literary English nor current conversational English. I feel that language schools are soon going to have to offer two kinds of English: stripped-down for everyday use and a more formal one for anybody that wants to read English literature.</p>
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		<title>By: Anna Roitman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anna Roitman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 16:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is nice to hear of the project and receive and answers to all the questions i raised. it is also very nice to read there are people who are so enthusiastic about teaching literature and knowing that I&#039;m not struggling with windmills. Unfortunately in this part of the world it is even a tougher struggle than in other places because of the culture which very much revolves around the military. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is nice to hear of the project and receive and answers to all the questions i raised. it is also very nice to read there are people who are so enthusiastic about teaching literature and knowing that I&#039;m not struggling with windmills. Unfortunately in this part of the world it is even a tougher struggle than in other places because of the culture which very much revolves around the military.</p>
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		<title>By: MartinDyan</title>
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		<dc:creator>MartinDyan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 14:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Anna, thanks for reminding me of the TESL point of your article. I agree that dealing with the literature and discussing it is extremely important, maybe there should be as much emphasis on the structure of the language as the literature surrounding it. 
 
As for the project in London I&#039;ll try to answer your questions in order (as long as I&#039;m not being naive and they&#039;re actually rhetorical!). Firstly, we&#039;ll only know how many of the youngsters use them at the end of the project. Who knows whether they see the point of using them, it&#039;s always difficult to make a judgment on that without surveys or data, but although the kids may be under-educated, they&#039;re not ignorant of that fact that getting something for free is always good! I do completely agree though, it&#039;s up to the educators in the class to encourage them to go (I did see a few school groups at the theatre a couple fo weeks ago) and there also has to be a way that the literature touches their lives in ways that they associate with - i think this point is intrinsic to your article/argument. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Anna, thanks for reminding me of the TESL point of your article. I agree that dealing with the literature and discussing it is extremely important, maybe there should be as much emphasis on the structure of the language as the literature surrounding it. </p>
<p>As for the project in London I&#039;ll try to answer your questions in order (as long as I&#039;m not being naive and they&#039;re actually rhetorical!). Firstly, we&#039;ll only know how many of the youngsters use them at the end of the project. Who knows whether they see the point of using them, it&#039;s always difficult to make a judgment on that without surveys or data, but although the kids may be under-educated, they&#039;re not ignorant of that fact that getting something for free is always good! I do completely agree though, it&#039;s up to the educators in the class to encourage them to go (I did see a few school groups at the theatre a couple fo weeks ago) and there also has to be a way that the literature touches their lives in ways that they associate with &#8211; i think this point is intrinsic to your article/argument.</p>
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		<title>By: Anna Roitman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anna Roitman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 19:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you very much for the enlightenment,  and I am glad to see that there are countries that are doing something about cultural education. At the same time please note, that I discuss the matter as TESL  , that is, teaching English as second language. I have no doubt whatsoever that countries in which English is the native tongue , will have English Literature as a subject with class hours devoted only for that. What I tried to stress is that in countries where English is an obligatory subject to graduate from the education system(and later pursue higher education) it turns to be very poor and functional as those who write the books minimized them for test-familiarization, grammar and unseens,which rarely deal with literature or with discussing literature. How can somebody even teach a language without familiarizing his or her students with the culture as it is manifested in literature? I suggested first and for most an open class discussion because we lack in that as students are not being asked to discuss literature in the finals . The project in London is indeed amazing and there is much to be done on the level of politics , unfortunately when the ruling doctrine is science the first step should be retrieve subjects like literature their long lost respect. 
Even if the tickets are given for free, how many of the youngsters really use them? How many of them see the point of using them? Dont you think it requires the educators to make them want to go to the theater? This initiative should be backed up by some in class encouragement program. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you very much for the enlightenment,  and I am glad to see that there are countries that are doing something about cultural education. At the same time please note, that I discuss the matter as TESL  , that is, teaching English as second language. I have no doubt whatsoever that countries in which English is the native tongue , will have English Literature as a subject with class hours devoted only for that. What I tried to stress is that in countries where English is an obligatory subject to graduate from the education system(and later pursue higher education) it turns to be very poor and functional as those who write the books minimized them for test-familiarization, grammar and unseens,which rarely deal with literature or with discussing literature. How can somebody even teach a language without familiarizing his or her students with the culture as it is manifested in literature? I suggested first and for most an open class discussion because we lack in that as students are not being asked to discuss literature in the finals . The project in London is indeed amazing and there is much to be done on the level of politics , unfortunately when the ruling doctrine is science the first step should be retrieve subjects like literature their long lost respect.<br />
Even if the tickets are given for free, how many of the youngsters really use them? How many of them see the point of using them? Dont you think it requires the educators to make them want to go to the theater? This initiative should be backed up by some in class encouragement program.</p>
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		<title>By: MartinDyan</title>
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		<dc:creator>MartinDyan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 13:08:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Anna, I studied English Literature at uni and completely agree with your views on the importance of literature and the English language.  
 
I&#039;m not so sure however on the point that teenagers &quot;don&#8217;t really care about government or world-historic events.&quot;  Furthermore, i also don&#039;t necessarily agree that &quot;poetry, playwriting and novels&quot; are viewed by the higher authorities as &quot;esoteric and redundant&quot;. For example, although it was a rushed measure, a new injection of money into London&#039;s theatres has created an opportunity for youngsters to go to the theatre and indeed learn about Brecht and Shakespeare without even paying a penny. Please see this: 
 &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thestage.co.uk/news/newsstory.php/21850/plan-to-offer-a-million-free-theatre-tickets&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.thestage.co.uk/news/newsstory.php/2185...&lt;/a&gt; 
 
So, do you only suggest an open-class discussion on literature or is there something more that can be done on a government and grass-roots level? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Anna, I studied English Literature at uni and completely agree with your views on the importance of literature and the English language.  </p>
<p>I&#039;m not so sure however on the point that teenagers &quot;don&rsquo;t really care about government or world-historic events.&quot;  Furthermore, i also don&#039;t necessarily agree that &quot;poetry, playwriting and novels&quot; are viewed by the higher authorities as &quot;esoteric and redundant&quot;. For example, although it was a rushed measure, a new injection of money into London&#039;s theatres has created an opportunity for youngsters to go to the theatre and indeed learn about Brecht and Shakespeare without even paying a penny. Please see this:<br />
 <a href="http://www.thestage.co.uk/news/newsstory.php/21850/plan-to-offer-a-million-free-theatre-tickets" target="_blank"></a><a href="http://www.thestage.co.uk/news/newsstory.php/2185.." rel="nofollow">http://www.thestage.co.uk/news/newsstory.php/2185..</a>. </p>
<p>So, do you only suggest an open-class discussion on literature or is there something more that can be done on a government and grass-roots level?</p>
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		<title>By: sharon</title>
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		<dc:creator>sharon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 09:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anna! you argued well for teaching literature un class. i think that every text to which the teacher himself can relate,  is a text the students will react to- either to agree or to disagree. maybe you should send this article to ECB and UPP. just sensd it to them, maybe someone will  decide to do something with your ideas in an updated textbook. 
 
i l-o-v-e-d your insight on the &quot;average teenager&quot;! i think i was like it as well, but i do remember my teacher in the 9th grade teaching us &quot;Imagine&quot; and it was wonderful for me, but i remember my friends not relating to it one bit. one should introduce these texts - any text that has a statement imbeded in it-  with care. feel the classroom before, know what your heading towards, and then decide when and how and with which tool. 
 
Yeshar koach! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anna! you argued well for teaching literature un class. i think that every text to which the teacher himself can relate,  is a text the students will react to- either to agree or to disagree. maybe you should send this article to ECB and UPP. just sensd it to them, maybe someone will  decide to do something with your ideas in an updated textbook. </p>
<p>i l-o-v-e-d your insight on the &quot;average teenager&quot;! i think i was like it as well, but i do remember my teacher in the 9th grade teaching us &quot;Imagine&quot; and it was wonderful for me, but i remember my friends not relating to it one bit. one should introduce these texts &#8211; any text that has a statement imbeded in it-  with care. feel the classroom before, know what your heading towards, and then decide when and how and with which tool. </p>
<p>Yeshar koach!</p>
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